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    The Use and Abuse of Newbistory for Players with No Imagination

    N00B
    Pronunciation: 'nü-bE, 'nyü-
    Function: noun
    Etymology: early 133t sp33k.
    1 archaic: Beginner, Novice.
    2: Moron, Idiot; often prefaced with the words "Dumb" "Stupid" "Worthless" and "Gay."


    I. Expanded Historae of "Newbie": The MMORPG Context

    Growing up in the early '90s, the first online game I got to play was Diablo -- where there were a healthy amount of teens like me out to murder, plunder, and dishonor everyone I came into contact with, and of course the 35 year old guy living in his basement who felt like injecting morality into virtual life usually under the righteous paladin image. The image of the noble paladin would quickly expire in the MMORPG community, as calling someone a "kissing roleplayer" was almost as bad as a "kissing newbie." Anyways, there were also an abundance of college kids playing Diablo -- mostly to mess around with Assembly (ASM), (to make God Mode, Res-Kill, Ear Creation, and Duping and a host of other shit I can't remember) propagate their .dats, and play with various flooding techniques that would nail Blizzard's Servers. If you were not a member of these elite Diablo Technomancers (Enigma, BoBa FeTT, TechWarrior, Levi) then you most likely used WinNuke to settle your channel disputes or kick other clans out of their channels, and the .dats provided by the great hax0rs to kill victims.

    Not all of us PKs cheated or used .dats to kill people, but that’s a different story.


    In Diablo the first place I ever heard the word newbie was in the channel Bounty Hunters, where the hacking college kids would aggregate from time to time. BoBa FeTT was there pretty regularly I think (though I did hear at one point he was a 16 year old aussie). People were trying to figure out how to make their own hacks, and just “letting the text fly”, asking questions without doing any research what so ever (there was no Google at this point, but I remember Alta Vista being big, and also Yahoo and Lycos), and every now and then one of the notable hackers would preface a statement with "Look newbie..." I never used it as an insult, it seemed to lack the verbal pyrotechnics that I relied on to inflame opponents, sucker people into "honest" duels and taking their God Mode off, or just to damage their ego.

    It was not until I went into Ultima Online that the term "newbie" really started to be used in force (and it kept that spelling for most of the time, it wasn't until about 1999 that the "l33t sp34k" spellings of j00, newb, etc permeated the online circle I was involved in). Even at this point it wasn't employed all that often, as being a "roleplayer" was the more common phrase to express someone's inexperience (because you weren't jaded as shit with 4 other characters that were 4-5x GMs). But as more people realized that the same guys they were fighting alongside with against the evil Dread Lords were just as likely to loot their corpse as the Player Killers were, the more people made Player Killer Alts and their disdain for newcomers (unjaded and trying to roleplay the Noble Lord) increased. So in the "virtual context of my cyber-youth" "kissing newbies" were as bad as "kissing roleplayers." Of course there were still some good guys who roleplayed well, and PvP'd well (Chris the Avatar comes to mind); but overall roleplaying was looked down upon as naive, and the people who participated in it, skill-less. I lament the loss of roleplaying though really, there were some great personalities that flowed from it and the practice enriched the community; now all we are left with is "kissing n00bs" who join the MMORPG community hurling gangsta slang and leet speek all in one giant clusterkiss.

    Then you have kissing EverQuest (EQ). MMORPG creativity DIED with this game. I can't discern whether or not everyone was jaded as hell by the time all the murdering, looting, raping, and shit talking of UO had concluded, or if a new generation of mmorpg players flooded the community and local communities around the U.S. are missing their abortion campaign poster-boys. The group of people one encounters across the spectrum of EverQuest servers categorically BLOW. In EverQuest the term "newb" "n00b" "noob" "newbie" "nub" "gnub" was abused beyond all kissing belief: you had angsty 15 year olds saying it; you had jaded paladins on Erollisi Marr saying it; and you had 31337 p3k4yz saying it. In EQ roleplaying was almost completely dead after about the first year; its absolutely dead now, and the grave has been urinated and defecated on. The 35 year old in his mom's basement from Diablo was now a 35-45 IT worker or computer programmer who wanted nothing but the respect he was denied daily for 8+ hours; there were still fat ugly roleplaying chicks masquerading as 115lb super models, but there was also the 35 year old wife trapped in suburban hell raising 2 kids and driving a mini van (who often enough might have been (a) married to the IT worker/Computer Programmer or (b) simply got involved in EQ because it was dragging her husband away from her, and was the only way to save a marriage from Ruin[ed]). In addition, there was the 12-17 year old kid talking shit--except he wasn't creative at all; his vocabulary of "smlak tkalk" was calling others a variation of the word newbie, pressing the yawn or laugh emote, and contrasting gear (which usually was just saying how much of a newb quality the gear was of the person he wanted to insult). The vehicle to their release from their awful lives turned out to be EverQuest and its “phat l00tz.”

    The upside of this turned out to be the tough-guy attitudes that all these players [IT worker, angsty teen, IT workers neglected wife] carried around, because when a tough guy dies in PvP online due to some lag, or because he dropped his daughter and had to pick her up or because he forgot to bring his pocket druid for thorns/regen/heals/sow/etc you know he’s going to have some angry things to say. Especially if you kill his wife who plays next to him. And bindpiont camp them. Afterall, he is the #1 pvpr, “biach.” I don’t see the need to go into much detail here, because if you have killed or trained just one person in EverQuest you know exactly the types of comical responses you get when a not-so-smart-but-very-angry-person-reaches-deep-down-for-an-insult- and-comes-up-with : “FCUKING N00B!!1”

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    Excellent Read 9/10 -1 point for not linking it to FOH

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    What I found most interesting is the name "tadalafil" tablets.

    Excuse me while I go eat some tadalafil pills so I can get a <3 on

    I dunno, the word sounds like something strange to me, like... TADA! la~ Fil(me with <3 on)

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    awsome read, you should make a chapter 2 though, on the "newb battles." ex.
    *player 1 trains player 2*
    player 2: Wow, your such a newb, only a freking newb hoe would train, you know why you train... cause i own you nubcakes
    player 1: Your the newb.... your dead, im alive, suck it newb
    player 2: See, newb, only a big dumb newb comes back and tries to call the better player a newb, when he clearly owns you
    player 1: stfu, ill get on my main and own you newb
    player 2: ok newb, i bet you dont have one, all you do is ebay, you freking hacking newb
    /ooc Your both newbs, stfu and take it to tells
    player 1: you stfu, ill own you to
    player 2: you cant own shit newb, go die

    you get the idea hohoho
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    a+ read keep it coming

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    Haha! Great stuff.

    I missed out on the bulk of Ultima Online, but I read a lot of the user-created stuff. WTFman's ronald mcdonald, bonedood and platedewd, and so on. While I know there was a strong roleplaying community in UO (which created the hilarious clash between players) I never saw any pages or links dedicated to it. Are any still around?

    Everquest's first year, or even first two years, had a fairly mature playerbase (as mature as a 35 year old IT admin can be that is). I remember seeing somebody say "YAAARRR ME CRUSTY BUNGHOLE" in OOC, and a GM pop in next to him a few minutes after to issue a suspension. And a large majority of the players roleplayed. I hung out with the ones who roleplayed funny characters.
    Last edited by Fry; 05-27-2005 at 04:01 PM.

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    YAAARRR ME CRUSTY BUNGHOLE
    if yall dont hear from me within... say... 2 weeks, i want you all to know that i went down with a fight, and i took em all down with me.


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    wtfman is classic stuff. Great reads and his flash videos were great at the time.

    Oh, and it appears that a guy from MDK (Murder Death Kill from... Chessapeak I think, this guild used to just raid and destroy some rpg city on a constant basis, but I cant find a link to the old MDK page) is on the Vanguard team!

    Good times, good times

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    really good (only 1 page) UO nostalgia page on the Vanguard forums

    Much of the rpg community that was in UO when I played has naturally moved on, but of course its just been replaced by newcomers. There was a guild page with the history of the Great Lakes server I played on, but that is gone and googling for the guy's name and guild comes up with nothing. Most of the old stuff seems to have decayed and most results that do show up are just broken links.

    But here is what I could gather, its a hodge-podge list of stuff. The best bet to just see some of the depth of the community UO has would be to hit http://uo.stratics.com/. They have lists for each server of what is going on, really good site. I think the events/happenings in the player 3rected community beat out EQ even 7+ years later.
    Ima Newbie cant remember if these were funny or not.

    http://baronshipofcove.cjb.net/ guild looks like its had some action recently.
    http://www.core-uo.com/ community of roleplayers, Europa website.
    Valoria map, a player built city.

    Black Rune Library (player made)
    Check out the links here, there is some player made community stuff.
    Chick Fight Club
    UO Gardening also has notable links section.
    Majestic Oaks Auction House(player made)
    Castles and Courtyards this site really warrants some exploration for the depth of creativity they allowed in UO as far as crafting/designing goes.

    http://www.minoc.org/ Minoc is a city in UO and these people have built up a community for it. Most of the cities in UO were thriving with activity; UO cities and EQ cities are diametric opposites.

    http://www.councilofmoonglow.com/ Moonglow city on Great Lakes (GL). Thats where I "grew up" in UO.

    Kazola's Tavern (wow looks like this might still be going)
    this place got raided by PKs constantly, I think everyone on the GL shard killed her and stole her dress at least once.
    The Begining of Kazola's Tavern
    Designer Dragon (Raph Koster) essay :
    Which brings us to the Dracul and Kazola's tavern, or the similar events that are occurring in Oasis with the reorganization of the player militia to denfend against organized attacks. (You knew I'd get to UO at some point, right?). What makes us fear the Other is the exercise of power, or the potential for it. Yet what we use as a yardstick for our own identity as a culture is very often our difference from the Other. From the enemy. From what we do not wish to exercise power over us. The last paragraph of the call to arms from the Sonoma Oasis Militia is particularly telling and eloquent in this regard:

    It is the idealistic goal of most citizens of Oasis that one day the city will need few active guards, and the spotlight will rightfully fall on our tavernkeepers, smiths, tinkerers, seekers, innkeepers, chefs, tailors, beggars, alchemists, mages, bards, rogues, librarians, scholars, rangers, miners, assassins, diplomats, and tamers--ALL of whom currently exist in Oasis but are frequently overshadowed by conflicts with those who would attack us. To approach that state, however, we need to continue to surmount substantial challenges...
    Oasis seeks to defend its culture from the Other, and what's more, it is coming together, and becoming a stronger entity because it faces those challenges. Kazola's tavern is famous in UO, not for being a roleplayer's tavern, but rather for being a flickering light of a roleplaying tavern that struggles against the forces of darkness.

    So thank heavens for the Other, and thank heavens for the playerkillers. For without them these places would not have acquired the sense of cultural identity that they now have. Bonds have been formed by struggling against a common Other that would otherwise have been cheaper, and easily earned. Cultures define and refine themselves through conflict. What's more, you can measure the strength of a culture by people's willingness to fight for its survival.

    So we come full circle to the Virtues. Oasis and Kazola's (and the Councils of Virtue, and Rivendell, and the City of Yew and...) are expressing the Virtues. They are just doing it without the training wheels. Unlike the standalone Ultimas, UO is not an open-book quiz.

    The Ultima series was ready to make the leap from leading to allowing players to lead. To go from difficult ethical choices on paper to difficult ethical choices in reality. The question to ask is whether the players it attracted were ready.

    You may each have your own answers for that, but I am optimistic. Right now the fledgling societies within UO are rambunctious, rough, occasionally cruel and callous, sometimes gloriously civilized. But they are indeed the sign of things being born, and of people following the Virtues on their own and not because the game makes them do so.

    Rhysart the Hermit (lots of story here).
    Check out the Tavern's library on the second floor when you get a chance. I've placed all of the books that I own in there for everyone's reading enjoyment. These include books from the days of Rhysart!

    If you have some books of your own that you would like to see in the library, please let me know; I'd love to have copies!
    I forgot about this feature of UO, you could write books in it. Game had everything. I couldnt find much of the stuff from the old days

    here are some (ie LOTS) of essays on MMORPGS by Raph Koster

    anyways, I could post pages upon pages of links, but the best way to experience it was to play it. Was a good game while it lasted. I couldnt find any stuff like the actual PK raids on Kazolas or the MDK gang bangs on mulitple roleplayer built cities =/
    Last edited by 3rectus; 05-29-2005 at 10:24 PM.

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    Nice links, thanks.

    What has happened to WTFman anyway? I've only ever read it for Ronald's updates, and he seems to have vanished. Nighthawk and the others don't interest me, but I see they brought in Dr. Twister.

    What UO was trying to do still seems a good 6 - 7 years off from the current MMORPG's who, while not as exciting, are going at a pace they can handle.

    I can't help but get a little stoked about Vanguard, what with McQuaid and the EQ guys, and a real old-school ultima online PK to boot.

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    I refuse to get stoked about any mmo: Refer to shadowbane :P

    I still believe they're the devil. But then I think of medievia.. If it wasnt for medievia i would have never learned C++ cuz i would have never wanted to run a MUD =P

    I mean, I was interested in programming, but i never really 'got it' before that.

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